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Sunday, October 29, 2006
Robert Sungenis & the Jews - An Update
On September 18, 2006, in response to Michael Forrest's analysis Sungenis and the Jews, Robert Sungenis published an "An Open Letter to the Patrons of CAI", in which he indicated in part:
As most of you know, CAI has been on a somewhat controversial path the last four years, ever since our critique of the Reflections on Covenant and Missions statement was issued in 2002. We began to focus on politics, culture and other peripheral issues that were not the frame and substance of our former work, which started in 1993. Although those areas certainly have their merit, they have detracted from the expertise we offered to the public in the area of biblical studies. Hence, we are retreating from those more controversial areas for the foreseeable future so that we can concentrate on our areas of strength.So what has transpired on Catholic Apologetics International since the publication of Sungenis' letter to his readers? -- Besides the fact that the old material on the Jews remains intact on the website, the October 2006 "Q&A" -- responses from Sungenis on "Jewish hatred of Christians"; Sungenis' "Book of the Month" features "the Holocaust industry", and CAI News Alerts' distributes a somewhat-dated article, Pike's Report on the ADL and B'nai B'rith re: Internet Policing, asserting that "clearly, the Jewish leaders of Verizon and Comcast circulate within the highest levels of evil Jewish media leadership." A persual of Pike's website, and radio programs like "Pedophilia: The Talmud's Dirty Secret" and news alerts like "Talmud: Wellspring of Jewish Pornography Industry" and "ACLU Top Heavy with Jews" is an indication that Sungenis is dipping into the same trough that sparked the intial controversy with Bill Cork back in 2002. In January 2005, Sungenis bestowed the following "advice" to Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong "regarding the references on your site to [William] Kristol, [Ann] Coulter, et al": If you have no political affiliation with these neo-cons, then I suggest you put a disclaimer on your site, otherwise people are going to get the wrong impression, and you can't blame them if they do. Any person with common sense who sees their names on your website would assume that you support the political views of the aforementioned unless you say otherwise.Meanwhile, Sungenis's own website is populated with copious citations from Albert Hoffman, Ted Pike, Michael Piper, The National Vanguard -- with nary a disclaimer. What follows are some links to articles and key events in the controversy over September/October 2006. If anything further develops it will likely be appended to this blog.
Update! 11/01/06 Ben Douglas informs me from the combox that "My article on the Talmud is finished, and available here. I have little interest in debating the finer points of what ugly things Jews might have said about Jesus way back when. (Come to think of it, Christians have said some pretty ugly things about Jews as well). Anyway, somebody else already inquired as to my impression -- for the sake of convenience I'm just going to excerpt from personal correspondence: The Talmud is an important element to the life of a religious (orthodox) Jew, but whatever the Talmud has said about Jesus, it figures very remotely in a contemporary Jewish encounter with Christianity. What is usually the subject of discussion in Jewish-Christian dialogue is not centuries-old polemics but more central and familiar theological questions: the divine sonship of Christ in relation to the Shemah ("Hear oh Israel, the Lord our God the Lord is One" -- a focal point in Jewish liturgy), the idea of the Trinity, the understanding of revelation, etc. So at least Ben admits that: Not all of the Talmudic doctrines listed below directly reflect the beliefs of even Orthodox Jews; some may have been modified or eliminated by later Jewish Halakhah.But I'm finding myself wondering: what's the point? -- I can only picture the bemused expression on the face of a Jewish reader who happens across [Catholic Apologetics International] and finds a 24-year old "Catholic apologist" laboring intently on demonstrating how rabbinical Judaism adopts a carefree attitude toward adultery (with gentiles), paedophilia, sodomy and bestiality. God forbid a Jewish reader should come to the conclusion that this is what "Catholic apologists" do as a profession or even a pasttime. If Sungenis or Douglas wanted to know how Jews really behave, they could probably do no better than to read Rabbi Hayim Halevy Donin's To be a Jew: A Guide to Jewish Observance in Everyday Life. If they wanted to examine a contemporary Jewish encounter with Jesus, I might suggest a critical reading of Rabbi Jacob Neusner's A Rabbi Talks with Jesus -- praised by none other than Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger as "By far the most important book for the Jewish-Christian dialogue in the last decade. The absolute honesty, the precision of analysis, the union of respect for the other party with carefully grounded loyalty to one's own position characterize the book and make it a challenge especially to Christians, who will have to ponder the analysis of the contrast between Moses and Jesus."But you know, I just don't get the sense they're interested in a genuine discussion with contemporary religious Jews. Ben clearly states his intent in the footnotes, on desiring that this study should serve its stated purpose of moving Jews to reconsider their Judaism, even in those who already know that they don’t believe in everything in Halakhah.However true it may be (and if it is true -- I'm not qualified to say), although I'd be curious what a Talmud scholar would make of Ben's "study"), dredging up all that is nasty and ugly in Jewish tradition (which one could readily do with any religious tradition) is hardly the best strategy for evangelization. CAI reminds me of the website "rotten.com" -- think of the online equivalent to the film series "Faces of Death." I don't recommend visiting the website, but its basic premise is to dredge up the very worst in humanity and put it on display. Douglas, Sungenis, E. Michael Jones, Thomas Herron -- they seem to relish doing the same with Jews and Judaism. "Apologetics-by-repulsion" -- perhaps that should be their motto? Labels: extremism
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